1 00:00:05,450 --> 00:00:06,470 West Midlands Police. 2 00:00:07,530 --> 00:00:10,230 There is a young man in a school uniform. 3 00:00:11,730 --> 00:00:16,810 I would say he is about 12 years old and has been stabbed in the stomach. 4 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:20,650 Do you breathe in and out normally? 5 00:00:21,270 --> 00:00:22,470 Very worked. 6 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:27,310 I have confirmed that we have the police on the road 7 00:00:27,790 --> 00:00:32,910 Come on, open your eyes. I'm here. Open your eyes Ah, well done. 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,220 Very well, stay with us. 9 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:24,750 Mike 2, 6, 8, they're stabbing. 10 00:01:25,510 --> 00:01:26,510 Rambo here too. 11 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:36,230 West Midlands Police officers are Respond to a serious incident after a 12 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:40,750 A young man is found stabbed on the road home from school in south Birmingham. 13 00:01:42,590 --> 00:01:43,590 Come on, friend. 14 00:01:44,780 --> 00:01:48,660 He was found conscious, sitting and out of consciousness. And then he left 15 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:49,660 in arrest. 16 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,480 Did you see what happened? 17 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:54,460 He went to my school. I told my mom. 18 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,020 If we can check the pulse in two sites. 19 00:01:58,780 --> 00:02:01,260 I have a pulse. I have a pulse. I have I have a pulse. 20 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:04,280 Let's just note that that's 1622. 21 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,340 Pulse is detected. Okay, he's weak. central pulse. 22 00:02:13,820 --> 00:02:15,060 Ready, steady, lift. 23 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Come on Leo. 24 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,900 You can do it, friend. 25 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:26,500 The boy, named by a witness in the scene, is Leo Ross, 12 years old. 26 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,200 He is rushed to the hospital surgery. 27 00:02:42,220 --> 00:02:47,160 Crime Scene Investigator Drew Birtle immediately starts obtaining forensic evidence 28 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,940 evidence at the scene, which can help identify the attacker. 29 00:02:52,660 --> 00:02:56,000 So we have the place where Amber was. treated, the young boy. 30 00:02:57,380 --> 00:03:03,720 There is no suggestion that in a broad area, I think the assault is 31 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,660 confined to this area here. 32 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:10,960 Working in forensic medicine. 33 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,020 You often see distressing and horrible things. things. 34 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:22,900 But when you find out that this is a little child who has been stabbed, is 35 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:26,220 difficult to understand that something as if that could happen. 36 00:03:33,220 --> 00:03:38,360 The priority for Drew is quickly establish how the attack occurred 37 00:03:40,140 --> 00:03:43,400 We have a main road that extends from from one end of the park to the other. 38 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:50,200 We have secondary trail that dog. It will be used by walkers, children and cyclists. 39 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,180 We also have swampy areas there. We have a current there. 40 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,840 It's a huge area. 41 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,260 And we know, obviously, that the suspects He fled, but we don't know how 42 00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:02,260 direction. 43 00:04:03,260 --> 00:04:06,040 Then we have to cordon off the entire park. off. 44 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:09,080 Nobody to pass by the scene. 45 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,000 Nobody passes by the scene. 46 00:04:12,180 --> 00:04:14,520 So if we get it out of these trees. 47 00:04:17,060 --> 00:04:24,020 While agents ensure access to the four kilometer park, the place where Leo 48 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:26,260 was found is protected from elements. 49 00:04:27,460 --> 00:04:29,840 It's probably better to be on the safe side and cover it. 50 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,940 We know that the young people were stabbed. wounds. 51 00:04:38,090 --> 00:04:42,050 We don't know with what at the moment. We're assuming a knife, but I wouldn't do it. 52 00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:45,670 broken bottle, screwdriver, could be anything. 53 00:04:46,270 --> 00:04:51,350 But we don't know, was there a theft of any type? Has there been a fight? 54 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:57,150 I think it's absolutely horrible. 55 00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:06,410 Leo's school clothes are recovered and The crime scene is guarded at night. 56 00:05:16,159 --> 00:05:19,660 Tributes have been paid to the 12 years -old boy who was stabbed to death in 57 00:05:19,660 --> 00:05:20,660 Birmingham yesterday. 58 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,820 Leo Ross was stabbed in the stomach and found near Scribers Lane in Hall Green. 59 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,860 He died in the hospital after being transferred. there in an air ambulance. 60 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Well, good morning everyone. 61 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,820 This is Op Ultimo, which is murder. by Leo Ross. 62 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,620 After the death of the young man in hospital, West Midlands Police launch a 63 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:44,620 murder investigation. 64 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:48,310 Leo was stabbed around three thirty yesterday afternoon. 65 00:05:49,210 --> 00:05:52,030 Led by Detective Inspector Joe Davenport. 66 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:55,650 That exact spot is where I was. found. 67 00:05:57,170 --> 00:05:59,330 One of the first witnesses to give a account. 68 00:05:59,590 --> 00:06:03,330 She claims that she has seen a person in the weed and has come over to help. 69 00:06:03,330 --> 00:06:06,670 He noticed that he was pale, had a wound in the stomach, with blood through 70 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:07,670 stomach. 71 00:06:07,970 --> 00:06:10,850 But no one really saw what happened. and there were no obvious suspects. 72 00:06:12,050 --> 00:06:13,510 This case is... 73 00:06:13,950 --> 00:06:15,990 Shocking due to the age of the victim. 74 00:06:17,330 --> 00:06:19,890 Leo is just a 12 year old boy. he is in school uniform. 75 00:06:21,090 --> 00:06:26,370 So for someone to clearly deliberately stabbing a 12-year-old boy 76 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:29,390 I think this person is incredibly dangerous and must be found as soon as possible. 77 00:06:29,390 --> 00:06:30,390 possible. 78 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:34,650 Hypothesis for the moment, then, the The victim has been stabbed by an unknown person. 79 00:06:34,650 --> 00:06:38,170 as part of a robbery or the victim has been stabbed by a stranger for 80 00:06:38,170 --> 00:06:39,170 unknown reasons. 81 00:06:39,550 --> 00:06:41,010 At the moment I don't have... 82 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:44,230 clear reason or reason why someone I would do this to him. 83 00:06:45,810 --> 00:06:47,750 Youth knife crime is a problem. 84 00:06:48,170 --> 00:06:50,130 Young people stab other young people people. 85 00:06:50,490 --> 00:06:51,970 So is it gang related? 86 00:06:52,450 --> 00:06:54,590 Have you been attacked as part of a robbery? 87 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:56,710 Could be several different ones scenarios. 88 00:06:58,410 --> 00:07:02,530 So, our main line of research today is: search the crime scene to secure and 89 00:07:02,530 --> 00:07:03,650 preserve evidence of the crime. 90 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:07,670 And we need to find the murder weapon as soon as possible. as soon as possible. 91 00:07:22,250 --> 00:07:25,590 Lots of water in there. It's like a swamp swamps and all kinds of... Yes. it is 92 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:27,090 the perfect place to do something like this. 93 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:28,350 Yeah. 94 00:07:28,930 --> 00:07:34,350 Joe joins Drew at the crime scene. to help coordinate a forensic search for 95 00:07:34,350 --> 00:07:35,350 the area. 96 00:07:36,810 --> 00:07:41,570 The incident occurred inside. cordon off up there. It is not clear in which direction 97 00:07:41,570 --> 00:07:44,470 the offender had left the scene or entered the scene. 98 00:07:44,710 --> 00:07:50,610 The biggest problem we have is a exceptional murder weapon in a massive 99 00:07:51,310 --> 00:07:52,650 We have a lot of overgrowth. 100 00:07:54,870 --> 00:07:59,530 We could be five meters from murder weapon and we will never 101 00:07:59,530 --> 00:08:00,530 know. 102 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:08,470 Police drone operators begin mapping the complex terrain to identify routes 103 00:08:08,470 --> 00:08:09,490 the offender could have taken. 104 00:08:11,570 --> 00:08:14,950 The river path also leads to the nearby houses. 105 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,260 We are doing research on the Incident occurred in the park. us 106 00:08:22,260 --> 00:08:25,020 I was wondering if your CCTV cameras were working. 107 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,700 No, I'll go this way. 108 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:30,040 Come on, get in your position. 109 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,419 Six search teams enter to comb the vast area. 110 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:37,980 Good to go, yes? 111 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,580 The murder weapon is vital. 112 00:08:43,380 --> 00:08:46,800 Has the potential to link the suspect. and the victim. 113 00:08:47,630 --> 00:08:49,450 But it's a hugely challenging scene. 114 00:08:50,490 --> 00:08:56,190 Not only does it have water, but it flows water, which could remove DNA. 115 00:09:02,610 --> 00:09:09,310 Time is of the essence. 116 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:14,190 The longer it is pending, if exposed to the elements, can reduce the 117 00:09:14,190 --> 00:09:15,810 forensic evidence that was recovered. 118 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:25,340 A knife that by itself may not be small. but hidden in the park and becomes 119 00:09:25,340 --> 00:09:26,340 a needle in a haystack. 120 00:09:40,750 --> 00:09:45,690 Leo Ross's many friends left flowers and messages near the park where I was 121 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:47,710 fatally stabbed yesterday after school. 122 00:09:48,530 --> 00:09:53,650 A relative described him as The most beautiful, kind, fun, sweet girl. 123 00:09:53,650 --> 00:09:55,930 and without an aggressive bone in his body. 124 00:09:58,810 --> 00:10:01,310 The community impact of this crime is massive. 125 00:10:02,330 --> 00:10:07,030 While 12 year old children were stabbed in these Circumstances that I believe generate fear. 126 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:08,030 everyone's heart. 127 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:10,890 Everyone thinks this could have been my child. 128 00:10:11,890 --> 00:10:12,890 Tragic, really. 129 00:10:15,270 --> 00:10:16,270 yes, 130 00:10:16,810 --> 00:10:17,810 It's horrible. 131 00:10:20,270 --> 00:10:25,850 Leo's entire life has been taken away from him. him, so we will stop at nothing to 132 00:10:25,850 --> 00:10:28,090 Identify who carried out Leo's murder. 133 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:45,140 We have over 200 CCTV locations with many, many hours of CCTV footage on each 134 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:46,140 of those locations. 135 00:10:46,460 --> 00:10:53,120 As images begin to arrive, CCTV Analyst Andy MacDonald is tasked with 136 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,500 through it to identify Leo's last acquaintance movement. 137 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,300 We want to find Leo because we want find out if there are any others 138 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:04,620 interaction during your journey can... 139 00:11:05,070 --> 00:11:11,090 have been a precursor that led to to what unfortunately happened many 140 00:11:11,090 --> 00:11:15,690 the school children dressed the same uniform, yes, the same backpack, even the 141 00:11:15,690 --> 00:11:22,330 Same coat, so we have this new AI. software that allows us to review 142 00:11:22,330 --> 00:11:28,550 large amounts of CCTV footage in very short times and review the findings 143 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:33,350 using advanced facial recognition 144 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:39,290 Andy can explore hundreds of hours of footage through multiple cameras in solo 145 00:11:39,290 --> 00:11:40,290 a few minutes. 146 00:11:40,970 --> 00:11:47,750 For me, it is a turning point and has a feature where you can upload images 147 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:52,950 of individuals and ask the system to look for that person. 148 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:56,570 So that's the image of Leo. 149 00:11:58,150 --> 00:12:02,310 So now I'm going to click on that clip. 150 00:12:05,339 --> 00:12:08,960 And has brought back this sighting of this individual. 151 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:16,580 And then, momentarily, he looks again the camera and it has caught someone 152 00:12:16,580 --> 00:12:18,960 which I think is Leo. 153 00:12:23,580 --> 00:12:24,580 Well, that's amazing. 154 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:29,060 With the hood up, it's hard to recognize him. he. It's really quite impressive. 155 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:33,280 If I were to see that footage, it would be Take me two days, three days to see it. 156 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:40,200 and I may or may not have found something of relevance has helped us 157 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,840 identify leo leaving school where in a way a course turns towards the 158 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:51,600 camera to make it a fraction of a second where only part of his face is visible and the 159 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,580 ai I picked it up as being a Leo it gives me a clear direction of travel really 160 00:12:56,580 --> 00:13:01,920 useful tool to help me focus my search from that moment 161 00:13:02,780 --> 00:13:04,520 Look towards the camera. 162 00:13:05,540 --> 00:13:09,760 That has now given me a moment in which Leo leaves school. 163 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,960 Andy is now able to track down the young man. The child's trip to the park. 164 00:13:21,620 --> 00:13:25,940 Then he walked down Ravens Hill Road, crossed the street. 165 00:13:31,550 --> 00:13:37,850 Along Priory Road, turning right at Writers Lane, and then 166 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:40,770 enters the place where the violation occurred. 167 00:13:42,670 --> 00:13:45,590 That was our last sighting in 1510. 168 00:13:47,010 --> 00:13:52,090 Security cameras show that he was not with no one and does not seem to have had 169 00:13:52,090 --> 00:13:54,870 conversation or disagreement with someone on the way to the park. 170 00:13:55,510 --> 00:13:58,490 But there is no CCTV inside the park. same. 171 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,800 I don't know what happened. 172 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,300 The postmortem examination could reveals a stab wound to the front of the 173 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:16,600 abdomen. Drew has received details of Leo's autopsy, which can offer 174 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,740 as to how the attack unfolded. 175 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,840 It passed through the skin muscle and entered the abdominal cavity. 176 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,660 Then it ended in the column. 177 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:35,540 Once an artery has been cut in such a way severe way, it is very 178 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:37,320 It's hard to come back from that. 179 00:14:38,020 --> 00:14:42,200 The characteristics of the stab wound are in maintaining the use of a single edge 180 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,060 cutting instrument such as a knife. 181 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:46,960 No obvious toothed features were observed. 182 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:53,080 We are facing a smooth sheet, medium length knife with wound 183 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,940 about 8cm deep. 184 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,800 It will be a kitchen knife. 185 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,380 No defensive injuries were observed. 186 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,500 Normally when we see defensive wounds, will be in the hands, in the 187 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,440 if they raise their arms to protect themselves. 188 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,140 So it could mean that Leo doesn't even I knew the attack was coming. 189 00:15:24,220 --> 00:15:26,920 Armed with a description of the likely murder weapon. 190 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,660 Currently 50 agents have been deployed focus the search along one kilometer of 191 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:33,660 green area. 192 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,300 Coordinated by the Senior Search Officer Brian Statham. 193 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:50,220 It may seem overwhelming to start with, but what I do is break the 194 00:15:50,220 --> 00:15:53,240 area into smaller sections, what we call sectoring. 195 00:15:54,250 --> 00:15:57,590 and we will not move on to other areas until finishing each sector. 196 00:15:58,590 --> 00:16:01,030 You have to be on to find it. 197 00:16:01,370 --> 00:16:04,850 You have to realize why you are doing it that. Are you looking for something that 198 00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:07,390 could potentially prosecute someone for a horrendous crime. 199 00:16:07,610 --> 00:16:10,850 If your child was involved, you would want that for your children. 200 00:16:13,870 --> 00:16:16,870 As for the search for water, that's all. being searched. 201 00:16:17,130 --> 00:16:18,950 You're getting into that, right? is Is it that deep? 202 00:16:19,170 --> 00:16:21,650 The problem with the liquid is that really, very thick. 203 00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:29,120 Because if you have diving equipment... A specialized diving team moved in to perform 204 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,300 searching for the river with the tips of your fingers, starting closest to the crime scene. 205 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Hide something in so vast 206 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,620 area is very easy for a criminal to do. 207 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,920 But you have to remember that they will. He's probably in a state of panic. 208 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,260 So they don't think. like a normal person, you will want to get rid of it like 209 00:16:58,260 --> 00:17:00,380 as quickly as possible and they will errors. 210 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,460 And that's when we'll find it. 211 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:13,319 So this is kind of an officer's body camera. footage. 212 00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:17,260 This is where they have really found Do I read then? 213 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,280 Yes. 214 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:27,119 Joe and DC James Noble review the body camera of the lifeguards to see who else 215 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,100 in the park at the time of the stabbing. 216 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,500 This is horrible, isn't it? 217 00:17:32,940 --> 00:17:33,940 Yes. 218 00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:40,400 Leo was discovered a short time later. was stabbed, which means that people 219 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,660 They were not far away when this occurred. 220 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,300 There is a window of time where we can identify all the different people who 221 00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:47,300 They were there. 222 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:49,220 We have two boys. 223 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,820 who are more or less your age, need understand who they are for him, how 224 00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:57,040 He knows them and has there been any? Problems between them before? 225 00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:05,740 So this boy just said that he is the one Did you find it? 226 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:07,420 Yes, this kid on the bike. 227 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:16,460 So somehow he raised the alarm with other members of the public, right? 228 00:18:18,350 --> 00:18:22,150 Just to confirm, have you been traveling Around here around three. 229 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:25,870 Was it three o'clock or was it later? three? Because now it's close to four. 230 00:18:26,250 --> 00:18:29,930 I can't really remember it, but I didn't do it. touch it because that could put me in 231 00:18:29,930 --> 00:18:30,930 case. 232 00:18:31,950 --> 00:18:33,910 What did he say? I could put myself in the case? 233 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:36,610 Yes, I haven't touched it because that I could get on your case. 234 00:18:36,930 --> 00:18:39,590 It's not the first thing you would think when you meet someone who 235 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:40,590 stabbed. 236 00:18:42,190 --> 00:18:45,230 The young man seems very, very Surprised, right? Hmm. 237 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:47,390 But you contrast that with... 238 00:18:47,690 --> 00:18:48,750 the older boy on the bike. 239 00:18:49,930 --> 00:18:51,710 The boy on the bicycle catches my attention. 240 00:18:51,910 --> 00:18:55,890 Some people have performed CPR, others People are calling 999 to ask for an ambulance. 241 00:18:55,890 --> 00:19:01,290 service while the bike boy seems to be sitting, looking 242 00:19:01,290 --> 00:19:02,269 taking place. 243 00:19:02,270 --> 00:19:03,270 Stop for a second, boy. 244 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:04,690 Stop in front of me for a second. 245 00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:06,150 You just passed by here. 246 00:19:06,430 --> 00:19:07,810 I asked him to bring my boy and he told me: yes. 247 00:19:08,430 --> 00:19:09,550 You want to get off, don't you? 248 00:19:10,030 --> 00:19:12,670 And also trying to get away from the scene as quickly as you can. 249 00:19:13,010 --> 00:19:16,090 Apparently he passed by and saw He stops on the ground. 250 00:19:24,220 --> 00:19:25,480 He is dressed completely in black. 251 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,880 Wear gloves. 252 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,320 And he said he is 14 years old. 253 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Why isn't he himself at school? 254 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,660 We need to know a lot more about him. 255 00:19:35,660 --> 00:19:39,060 Before leaving the place, the teenager He gave his details. 256 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,180 Detectives control the national police. computer to see if it is known 257 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:49,180 police. 258 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,700 It seems that in January of last year, he He tried to attack police officers in 259 00:19:56,700 --> 00:20:00,140 the school he attended at the time. Obviously, it seems that since then 260 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:01,140 has been expelled. 261 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,320 He says he has attacked some kind of Family therapist who you are working with. 262 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,820 in the park, so exactly in the same location. 263 00:20:11,139 --> 00:20:13,000 He is the outstanding person, isn't he? the moment? 264 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Yes. 265 00:20:14,660 --> 00:20:19,360 For me, based on the information that we have, his propensity for violence, 266 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,440 the other history of assault, in the exactly the same place, and the absence of 267 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,740 Another clear suspect at this time, the An old man on a bicycle, for me, has to be a 268 00:20:27,740 --> 00:20:28,880 suspicious and has to be arrested. 269 00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:34,780 Joe orders the immediate arrest of the 14 years old. 270 00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:40,240 Hello, the police. 271 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,640 Where is? 272 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Where is it, friend? 273 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,640 Come here. 274 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Extend your hands. You are more than due at rest. 275 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,860 Dad, turn on my PlayStation. 276 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,960 I'm going to touch your ear, partner. 277 00:20:58,820 --> 00:21:05,480 You have been arrested. 278 00:21:06,380 --> 00:21:07,660 Big offense, my friend, that's what. 279 00:21:08,170 --> 00:21:09,890 And your reaction to that is a smile. 280 00:21:12,330 --> 00:21:13,570 Someone has died, right? 281 00:21:13,910 --> 00:21:18,390 Stop moving it. 282 00:21:19,710 --> 00:21:21,190 Put your finger where you want. 283 00:21:21,690 --> 00:21:22,710 You are mature, right? 284 00:21:30,010 --> 00:21:34,430 Specialized agents carry out a search for the teenager's house, looking for any 285 00:21:34,430 --> 00:21:35,490 articles of interest. 286 00:21:37,870 --> 00:21:42,110 What I really need is that key piece of forensic evidence linking him to the 287 00:21:42,110 --> 00:21:43,110 offense. 288 00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:48,430 Clothing and footwear will be your best chance for a forensic 289 00:21:48,530 --> 00:21:55,250 but also the murder weapon, finding the suspect's phone, any electronic device, 290 00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:58,330 be it a laptop or any other game console. 291 00:22:00,330 --> 00:22:04,550 Were you communicating with the victim or Do other people discuss the crime? 292 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:13,180 Although they do not find any mobile phone or potential murder weapon, that of the suspect 293 00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:17,820 Clothing and PlayStation are seized and He will be sent to the main crime lab. 294 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Oh, by the way, the clothes he was wearing The previous usage has changed. 295 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,400 So we're not going to get anything. those clothes Well. 296 00:22:34,780 --> 00:22:37,820 Even in my room, you are not I'm not going to get anything from them because 297 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:38,820 they haven't done anything. 298 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,480 Why were you arrested? 299 00:22:46,540 --> 00:22:48,600 He was arrested for murder. 300 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,960 Upon being arrested for the murder, he He started to smile. 301 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,020 Said you won't get anything this clothes. 302 00:23:07,540 --> 00:23:11,440 He's been smiling and making comments. to the arresting officers. 303 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:16,400 You might find it funny. because he knows he hasn't 304 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,340 anything, or maybe actually is inciting the police and is getting 305 00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:21,380 some kind of fun with this. 306 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,420 Samples are taken from the adolescent to get your DNA and the clothes you wear 307 00:23:34,420 --> 00:23:35,420 are seized. 308 00:23:37,580 --> 00:23:41,920 An arrested suspect is considered a crime scene. 309 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,240 They may contain forensic evidence that can link them to a victim of a crime. 310 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:53,880 If the victim has grabbed the suspect clothes and there was a cell phone 311 00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:56,840 that touched DNA can stay with him for some time. 312 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:20,170 At the moment we do not know what weapon was used, and that is still 313 00:24:20,170 --> 00:24:21,170 outstanding. 314 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:26,790 With a limited time to retain a minor in custody without charges, Drew and Joe 315 00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:28,470 review forensic priorities. 316 00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:34,350 From the research we have carried out At the moment, it does not seem that Leo and the 317 00:24:34,350 --> 00:24:35,510 The suspects knew each other. 318 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:39,870 There is no communication with telephones, no electronic communication, nothing like 319 00:24:40,190 --> 00:24:44,450 So we haven't recovered a phone from the suspicious, and according to the family, he 320 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:45,450 doesn't have one. 321 00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:47,060 Leo's phone is exceptional. 322 00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:51,160 We know you have one, but you don't. been recovered yet. 323 00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:57,820 In the body video, he is wearing dark clothes and arrest him in the dark 324 00:24:57,820 --> 00:25:01,180 clothes too. So there is a Possibility of it being the same clothes. 325 00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:03,160 And it is a blood detection job in the clothes. 326 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,720 I think whatever link it may be, particularly blood between the two 327 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,140 we have to look above all, right? Yes. 328 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:14,300 I'm really... 329 00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:19,380 struggling right now to find any link between the suspect and the victim. 330 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:26,100 The maximum amount of time I have is 96 hours to obtain enough evidence to obtain a 331 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:30,720 PPS collection decision, which when you consider the area you need 332 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,360 be wanted and for how long forensic Proof is needed, it puts me under a lot of pressure. 333 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,360 pressure. 334 00:25:49,710 --> 00:25:54,690 The suspect's jacket has been fast. -tracked for forensic inspection 335 00:25:54,690 --> 00:25:55,690 Bo Mitchell. 336 00:25:57,430 --> 00:26:02,310 So I'm just looking to see if there are any stains that look like they could be 337 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:03,310 blood. 338 00:26:03,650 --> 00:26:07,530 We hope to potentially find The victim's blood is here. 339 00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:14,330 This jacket is a particularly tough garment. search, as well as... 340 00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:19,380 It's very dark, especially when looking for blood At the seams, the 341 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:20,380 It's black too. 342 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,580 Any stains may be hidden in between the seams. 343 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:33,460 We know that our victim has received a single stab wound. 344 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:41,660 And blood is not always lost. of the victim what you could do from 345 00:26:41,660 --> 00:26:42,660 an extended attack. 346 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,760 I can see a stain that looks like it could be blood. 347 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:58,980 So I just took some filter paper and Try this reddish brown dye to see if 348 00:26:58,980 --> 00:26:59,980 it could be blood. 349 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,740 Bo uses a chemical mixture to test if haemoglobin found in blood. 350 00:27:15,630 --> 00:27:18,310 If there is no pink reaction, then I know it. which is negative. 351 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:30,670 And there is no pink reaction, so it is not blood. 352 00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:44,910 It is disappointing that the jacket It has not produced any forensic results. 353 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:51,970 A review of the teenager's shoes, worn in the moment of his arrest, also reveals 354 00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:52,990 nothing remarkable. 355 00:27:53,810 --> 00:28:00,530 We still have a lot of work to do, so It is necessary to look for more evidence. 356 00:28:00,530 --> 00:28:07,430 to prove or disprove that our suspect was responsible for 357 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:08,430 The murder of Leon. 358 00:28:09,970 --> 00:28:14,630 As agents interrogate Leo's school friends for any connection between the 359 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:17,910 guys... They bring the 14 year old boy. for interview. 360 00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:23,270 So you can rest on suspicion of murder. 361 00:28:23,710 --> 00:28:25,530 I'll just read the statement. 362 00:28:26,290 --> 00:28:29,490 I want to say that I am 14 years old. 363 00:28:29,890 --> 00:28:35,150 I was diagnosed with ADHD, ODD, anxiety. and attachment disorder. 364 00:28:36,210 --> 00:28:38,310 I am also on the autism spectrum. 365 00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:42,130 I was diagnosed with the above conditions around six years. 366 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,200 I am also under the care of numerous mental health services. 367 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,040 I would respond without comment or stay. silent due to my condition. 368 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,080 Interviewing a minor increases the complexities and challenges of 369 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,040 this case. He is a 14 year old boy himself, but still had to be held accountable as 370 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,919 why was he there. 371 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,580 Do you know Leo? Do you have any history together? 372 00:29:09,460 --> 00:29:14,800 The person who died, with a child. with the name Leo Ross. 373 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,800 Have you had any problems with them? 374 00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:30,280 Were you on the road out of Priory? Lane and Scribers Lane in the afternoon 375 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,440 on January 21st between, say, three and four in the afternoon? 376 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:38,820 Were you carrying a knife? 377 00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:44,390 Was it a case where you've seen Noah? being attacked, but wasn't it you? 378 00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:49,710 This is the video of the body. 379 00:29:52,670 --> 00:29:59,650 What did you mean by 380 00:29:59,650 --> 00:30:00,650 that? 381 00:30:03,270 --> 00:30:05,750 Why wouldn't you want to touch it? help you? 382 00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:14,770 So right now, I just have circumstantial evidence. I know the 383 00:30:14,770 --> 00:30:18,730 The suspect was in the park and I know that was acting unusual. he has not provided 384 00:30:18,730 --> 00:30:22,410 a story in the interview, but there could be There will be numerous different explanations 385 00:30:22,410 --> 00:30:23,249 to why it is like this. 386 00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:28,070 Maybe he actually knows something, but he did not commit the 387 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:31,790 and he is covering for someone else or he may be afraid of the person 388 00:30:31,790 --> 00:30:33,110 He actually stabbed Leo. 389 00:30:33,730 --> 00:30:37,670 I need that key piece of information, that key forensic link. 390 00:30:38,949 --> 00:30:42,910 which tells me the suspect is connected to the offense and is more 391 00:30:42,910 --> 00:30:46,370 just his strange behavior and the fact who had to account for why he was 392 00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:47,370 there. 393 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:53,350 Hello, everyone. 394 00:30:55,090 --> 00:30:58,510 We have yet to establish any connection between the suspect and the 395 00:31:00,230 --> 00:31:04,370 The current belief and assumption are that the suspect doesn't have a mobile 396 00:31:04,370 --> 00:31:07,130 phone and it doesn't have a headset and does not have a mobile phone number, etc. 397 00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:12,400 With no phone recovered from any of the boys, Joe is still looking for something. 398 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,560 that can connect them. 399 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,780 We have the suspect's PlayStation. 400 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:21,180 In PlayStation terms, it's simply for any communication possibility 401 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:24,400 between them or if they knew each other online. 402 00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:28,480 It's a long shot, but I imagine it is quite hard because they are quite 403 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,600 isn't it? 404 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,960 The suspect's PlayStation is sent to digital forensics officer, Bernie 405 00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:46,100 to access. 406 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,400 Certain People Really Communicate quite a lot through consoles, 407 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,160 particularly as consoles start to gain the ability to have more and more 408 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,160 information about them. 409 00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:03,020 With this particular device, we have a Bluetooth dongle on the front. 410 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,180 Could be used to connect a mouse or keyboard that is wireless. 411 00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:13,020 The presence of a dongle for a keyboard. suggests that the teenager may have used the 412 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:14,540 game console for messaging. 413 00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:22,540 Modern consoles are different than when I It was a boy. When I was a kid, you put 414 00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:24,640 the cartridge, you turned it on and you would play the game. 415 00:32:24,940 --> 00:32:30,040 But now they are quite sophisticated. You have communication skills, 416 00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:36,960 voice, video and text, and that information can be recovered. 417 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,940 So that can be a very useful piece of forensic evidence. 418 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,540 Well, it's pretty rare that you get a password at this stage. 419 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:54,520 Unless, you know, they are quite sensitive to your privacy. 420 00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:58,660 The suspect has password protected the complete device. 421 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,780 This PlayStation has much more encryption than most devices. 422 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,680 So it makes you think. 423 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Do you know what the reason for these is? Additional layers of security? 424 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:18,100 It could mean that they are trying obfuscate criminal activity or evidence 425 00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,740 that would potentially implicate them in an offense 426 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,680 Well, let's see how this goes. 427 00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:27,140 All 428 00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:34,380 good. 429 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,940 Let's try... 430 00:33:42,570 --> 00:33:45,590 Yes sometimes it can take a little while. 431 00:33:49,870 --> 00:33:54,670 After three attempts, Bernie is at risk of being permanently locked from the machine 432 00:33:54,670 --> 00:33:55,810 if it continues. 433 00:33:56,850 --> 00:34:00,350 Four-digit PIN, I tried your date of birth, that hasn't worked. 434 00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:04,530 I don't have any other information really to get more password and i 435 00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:05,730 I don't know how many attempts I have. 436 00:34:07,330 --> 00:34:11,949 This password was set before was arrested and if he is released. 437 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,560 Before we have access to it, that may then allow him to erase any evidence 438 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,359 the device. 439 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,860 So it is very urgent. 440 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,260 There is a PlayStation that has been seized from his home. 441 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,020 All I'm asking here is, if you're willing to reveal password or PIN 442 00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,020 unlock the device. 443 00:34:32,620 --> 00:34:33,760 No, it goes there. 444 00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:49,409 We look at it there and at the tip, It was almost like a discoloration. 445 00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:51,389 It was almost like brown or red. 446 00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:57,530 The team searching the crime scene has made a discovery near the park 447 00:34:57,530 --> 00:34:58,530 perimeter. 448 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:06,990 It looks like a kitchen with black handles. knife. 449 00:35:08,050 --> 00:35:10,850 It's hard to see if there are any marks. I'll photograph it there. 450 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:18,020 Photographs of the knife are sent for He drew to inspect. 451 00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:26,560 Knife with black handle and approximately 13 centimeter blade. 452 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200 The knife is not in the best condition. 453 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:35,080 Some twig and foliage has fallen off. about that. That could be because it is 454 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,120 thrown and these arms have just been was placed on top. 455 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,680 The end of the knife has the edge. the tip is missing. 456 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,980 which could suggest that it has been damaged while being used. 457 00:35:49,420 --> 00:35:54,400 Sometimes you see that when you hit a pelvis or other large bone and alone 458 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,500 The end of the blade breaks. 459 00:35:57,020 --> 00:36:01,840 The knife will be quickly tracked to check. for any fingerprint or DNA belonging 460 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,300 to the suspect or the victim. 461 00:36:04,740 --> 00:36:05,740 Here we go. 462 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:15,950 On the screen we have all the cameras. what I have uploaded in relation to this 463 00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:16,950 operation. 464 00:36:18,070 --> 00:36:24,690 Andy has already collected a total of 5,000 hours of CCTV from 200 separate cameras 465 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:26,210 Cameras around the park. 466 00:36:27,490 --> 00:36:33,370 This is a mix of motion detection, doorbell cameras, as well as 467 00:36:33,370 --> 00:36:35,130 complete downloads of several locations. 468 00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:40,470 What we hope to be able to do is prove that if the suspect goes 469 00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:42,070 that doesn't go away 470 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:48,010 Start looking for someone who matches. the description of the suspect on the day of 471 00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:49,010 the murder. 472 00:36:50,350 --> 00:36:56,870 So the suspect in relation to this case. I was on a mountain bike and I was in everyone 473 00:36:56,870 --> 00:37:02,230 dark hooded clothing so we can You can put a two-wheeled bicycle. 474 00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:08,130 The AI ​​will then review the CCTV footage. that has been uploaded 475 00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:14,040 identify what you believe is a potential person on bicycle 476 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,460 Clicking on any of these icons activates to review the original footage, 477 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,020 Yes I think he is an outstanding person or is potentially the suspect. 478 00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:28,600 So that person has similar characteristics in dark clothing terms. 479 00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:32,700 But that's not my suspect. 480 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,800 Maybe even this one, let's take a look. in that one too. 481 00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:38,740 He has that look about him anyway. 482 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,400 No, it's not. 483 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,600 I don't think the bike is suitable for that. one. No. 484 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,700 yes, 485 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000 that's him. 486 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,400 Suspect. 487 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,800 Amazing. 488 00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:06,460 Having identified the suspect, Andy can Now follow your movements in real time. 489 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,980 So this is the entrance to the area. where the crime occurred. 490 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,260 And now he shows anyone that cross that line that is where 491 00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:20,120 crime occurred and looking for people on bicycles. 492 00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:25,460 And I have a sighting here of me suspicious. 493 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,400 Now I know the suspect comes in where the crime occurred around ten 494 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,400 three. 495 00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:41,910 And then we can see on that CCTV footage, it doesn't come out until 496 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:42,910 gone full. 497 00:38:43,470 --> 00:38:49,830 Security cameras show the suspect entering the Park 20 minutes before Leo and 498 00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:53,190 Only leave after the police have arrived. 499 00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:59,110 But there is still no forensic evidence that he is the murderer. 500 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,980 Visual blood search performed. 501 00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:14,440 The handle has been preserved for fingerprints. and cellular DNA taken from the tip 502 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,440 edge of the sheet. 503 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,180 At the coroner's headquarters, Drew receives full results for knife 504 00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:22,280 found in the park. 505 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,960 Negative light source. 506 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,800 The laser is negative. 507 00:39:27,020 --> 00:39:28,020 ultraviolet rays. 508 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,180 No crest detail. 509 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:34,440 Everything has turned out negative. 510 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:36,810 I don't think that's the weapon. 511 00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:43,350 No, I think we still have a exceptional knife. 512 00:39:47,770 --> 00:39:51,150 The result on the knife is disappointing. 513 00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:56,070 We have minimal forensic results on this point. 514 00:39:56,610 --> 00:40:01,810 There's no twist you can give it, so I still need to find that connection. 515 00:40:01,810 --> 00:40:03,530 between suspect and victim. 516 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,300 Okay, so we have managed to obtain the password for this device. 517 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:19,620 After being approached by the police, the The suspect's family agreed to hand over 518 00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:21,520 the PIN code of your game console. 519 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:30,220 With this particular device, you have a a lot of cloud based data, so let's go 520 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:34,620 to connect it to the internet to access PlayStation servers and receive messages. 521 00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:35,620 of that. 522 00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:40,660 What I'm going to have to do now is what We call it account takeover. 523 00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:46,540 With a PlayStation, all the data be stored on PlayStation servers. 524 00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:51,700 That sends what we call crowd-based information, which means I can't just 525 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:56,200 download the content. we have to look He is alive and we have to look at him. 526 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,200 quickly. 527 00:40:58,460 --> 00:41:01,980 In fact, I'm online right now. I don't I want someone to notice me 528 00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:02,980 presence on the device. 529 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,340 So the first thing I'm going to do like The quickest I can is to appear offline first. 530 00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:12,360 someone decides to block me or delete any messages. 531 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:18,360 I can already see the thousands of messages here. 532 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,940 Bernie starts filtering all the messages. for a period of six months before 533 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:25,940 murder. 534 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,080 From the context of this conversation, It seems like potentially... 535 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,160 This is his girlfriend. 536 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,680 Young people tend to live much longer their lives online. 537 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:48,700 I can see that there are many things normal, ordinary adolescent communication. 538 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:53,760 You know, invite people to play. various games, group chats with 20 539 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:59,260 And it's my job to determine what it is normal and what is relevant to the 540 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,920 So there's one here. 541 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,980 Some kind of vague threat. 542 00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:08,600 It refers to someone who was stabbed. 543 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:14,300 He says it was one of his friends. he is I'm going to find the person who did it and 544 00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:16,900 Do the same to him, stab him. 545 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,580 Any kind of message like that you have The references to violence are obviously 546 00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:25,580 It's going to be relevant. 547 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,260 Obviously they do not prove the crime. on your own, but we are trying 548 00:42:31,260 --> 00:42:32,260 build an image. 549 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,160 of the suspect's character also for prove the crime. 550 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,440 Bernie sees a conversation with him The same friend, dating back months. 551 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,440 was stabbed. 552 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,780 So I can also see that he said: "I am I'm going to go to prison because I'm going to go 553 00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:50,880 kill my therapist, because he is annoying. 554 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,900 Then continue sharing some understanding what the sentences are 555 00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:00,860 murder in the United Kingdom, as if it had... 556 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:02,290 I looked at it before. 557 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:07,650 She said she's not going to let him kill. your therapist. 558 00:43:15,150 --> 00:43:17,990 Then he mentioned that he is going out. kill someone now. 559 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,460 By reading this message, it may be It's hard to figure out what this general is. 560 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:33,460 adolescent bravado. 561 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,560 Is he the one trying to rebuild himself? like this tough character? 562 00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:43,700 Or is he really dating? Trying to find someone to stab? 563 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,600 But there is nothing here to indicate specifically towards Leo. 564 00:43:51,580 --> 00:43:53,200 And that's really the missing piece. 565 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,740 Sir, can you come take a look? this please? 566 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,020 Intelligence officer Derek Dolan has been investigating a wave of violence 567 00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:12,020 attacks in the same park, which can be relevant to the research. 568 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,480 We have Leo's offensives in the 21, and then we have three more 569 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,400 violations within three days before Leo, and all involve the use 570 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,100 of a bicycle. It's a black bicycle. 571 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,840 So the first violation, which is two days before Leo's murder. This one here is 572 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,840 Leo's murder? 573 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,800 By the way, yes. And the one just below It's the... So how far is that? 574 00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:35,920 They are approximately 50 meters. 575 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,360 82-year-old woman, and has been pushed from behind. 576 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:44,160 It has fallen into the river. the The criminal has hit her several times. 577 00:44:44,420 --> 00:44:45,600 He has a broken nose. 578 00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:48,400 You have swelling and bruising on your face. 579 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,020 The next violation was the next day. There was a woman walking alone. 580 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,300 The male has knocked her down behind. 581 00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:03,120 Third violation. Again, a lonely woman, 69 years old. years old. 582 00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:05,400 He pushed her and she screamed. 583 00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:08,780 She said he turned around and he he smiled at her. 584 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,020 This was only half an hour before. Leo's murder. 585 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:17,500 It's really strange, isn't it? how these crimes have occurred 586 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,880 place. From behind, like an unprovoked attack on vulnerable people in their 587 00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:24,000 And what was the...? 588 00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:26,330 Description of each of them? 589 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,270 For each of these crimes. 590 00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:33,570 The description is a white man, in his mid-teens, Black clothes on, on a touring bike. 591 00:45:34,330 --> 00:45:38,710 So no theft, no arguing or dispute beforehand? 592 00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:41,110 That's right, yes. No reason or something like that. 593 00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:45,090 It's almost like he's going out hunting. looking for people to attack. 594 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,340 We have images from the 21st. we have I already have material from the 19th and 595 00:45:54,340 --> 00:45:55,340 on the 20th too. 596 00:45:56,020 --> 00:46:02,300 New evidence prompts Andy to expand your CCTV search to include the dates on which 597 00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:05,920 teenager is suspected of carrying out the attacks in the park. 598 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:11,380 This is the fire team coming. Try to take out the first victim. 599 00:46:11,380 --> 00:46:12,380 the water. 600 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,960 A child has come, he has run here. and ran away. 601 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:27,080 Then we also made him return to kind of observe emergency services 602 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,160 vehicles. Good. 603 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,280 Down here are the emergency services. 604 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:37,100 So he's at the top of the road having a good look and stays there for a 605 00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,540 a little while and then it turns off again. Yes. And he keeps coming back. 606 00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,400 So, and then it will come back. very Contradictory behavior, right? Yes. 607 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,400 demonstrates. 608 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,440 100%, yes. 609 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,980 He clearly has some kind of obsession. or interest in relation to 610 00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:53,980 what is happening. 611 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,480 The behavior of the hanging suspect. around after the alarm goes off and everything 612 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,000 emergency services begin to arrive He points out to me that maybe it is 613 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,440 enjoying watching the kind of chaos that he has created, which simply demonstrates 614 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,440 dangerous it is. 615 00:47:12,490 --> 00:47:15,910 The new evidence applies to age 14. -old man in interview. 616 00:47:17,310 --> 00:47:20,970 We have talked about murder, but there is another incident that took place 617 00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:23,630 where they push a lady in the park. 618 00:47:24,270 --> 00:47:25,790 Do you know that person? 619 00:47:27,330 --> 00:47:28,330 No no. 620 00:47:28,750 --> 00:47:33,350 She ended up with two or three centimeter cuts on the right side of 621 00:47:33,350 --> 00:47:35,450 head, suspected hip fracture. 622 00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:39,390 Are you responsible for causing those Injuries to her? 623 00:47:39,970 --> 00:47:41,670 Have you pushed them? No comments. 624 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,620 Have you kicked him? No comments. 625 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,220 So on January 19, the lady went thrown into the water within nature 626 00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:53,100 reservation, and the person who hit her said I tried to drown her, and now 627 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:54,460 Instead, I'll try to kill you. 628 00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:56,300 Did you hit her? 629 00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,100 No comments. 630 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,780 There doesn't seem to be any reason, and that makes research difficult. 631 00:48:06,820 --> 00:48:08,480 And I'm running out of time. 632 00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:15,460 The threshold... will be higher for accusing a teenager of murder obviously 633 00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:20,180 we are going to deprive that child freedom for what we really need to be 634 00:48:20,180 --> 00:48:23,660 the evidence we have and the cps We need to be really sure that we have 635 00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:26,340 the right person before taking such an extreme measure 636 00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:33,300 I'll show you the real footage. 637 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:38,260 what's on this computer let me see if we can make this work 638 00:48:39,820 --> 00:48:45,200 Andy alerts Joe about the images he is recently discovered in a park camera 639 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,520 to target the fly dump. 640 00:48:47,780 --> 00:48:54,440 Now, when I turn 15, 16, he is driving at a very slow pace, he should 641 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,440 say. 642 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:04,840 His next sighting, at 15, 28 years old, comes flying 643 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,840 over here. 644 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,180 You are at high speed and you have to put your foot down. 645 00:49:09,690 --> 00:49:15,570 to possibly avoid skid or fall because 646 00:49:15,570 --> 00:49:17,350 here with a real weight. Okay, yes. 647 00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:24,570 The camera briefly captured the 14-year-old. -old at 3:28 p.m., 11 minutes 648 00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:28,170 before Leo's stabbing was reported emergency services. 649 00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:32,930 So it is certainly possible that he is now committed the crime and that's when 650 00:49:32,930 --> 00:49:34,010 he is getting rid of the knife. 651 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,400 Using the new images, the search team They are able to narrow down a route 652 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,960 The teen may have decided to get rid of a gun. after committing the crime. 653 00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:51,660 If we take you down this path, then I would like this part to focus on 654 00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:54,440 He threw it into the water. 655 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,700 So if I was in a hurry, it would be rushed. throw, I think. 656 00:49:59,140 --> 00:50:04,120 It's been out of sight for a couple of minutes, so for me that reduces. 657 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,940 a time frame of where you might be because you have a factor in the 658 00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:11,380 you have to get somewhere you have hide something and then have to 659 00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:18,280 go back Brian orders the search for a area near a bridge where the suspect is located 660 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:24,980 He probably passed by there. It's a little. There is fog in some places, be very careful. 661 00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:48,230 Sergeant, I think we have a knife there. 662 00:51:00,730 --> 00:51:02,310 Yes, it's like a kitchen knife. 663 00:51:02,850 --> 00:51:06,550 It is based on another island, literally. to the right, and it's probably like 20 664 00:51:06,550 --> 00:51:08,410 meters there, and it is literally on the bank. 665 00:51:09,390 --> 00:51:10,390 How much does the sheet cost? 666 00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:20,450 The recovery of the knife moves the Research is advancing enormously. 667 00:51:21,230 --> 00:51:25,230 It has the appearance of being just thrown away there. 668 00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:28,590 So where is that grass hole? This other side is there. 669 00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:33,410 But he was outside, he was not located. immediately. 670 00:51:33,770 --> 00:51:37,750 So there is a high potential for evidence to be destroyed. 671 00:51:39,330 --> 00:51:43,710 Only forensic analysis will determine if we have the right weapon. 672 00:52:06,350 --> 00:52:08,450 The first thing I will do is search. for blood 673 00:52:10,610 --> 00:52:16,470 We have to search in all the furrows. just to make sure we're not missing any 674 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:17,470 areas. 675 00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:25,490 With a single stab, often discover that the blood will not settle 676 00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:29,870 the sheet. With layers of clothing that Leo carried, the potential 677 00:52:29,870 --> 00:52:34,850 of the attack, the blade can often get cleaned so that it does not come into contact. 678 00:52:35,370 --> 00:52:42,150 the victim's clothing the upper part of the the handle looks reddish brown 679 00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:46,370 so I'm going to try that first 680 00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:58,390 yes 681 00:52:58,390 --> 00:53:01,650 If we have blood present, we will get a rose. reaction 682 00:53:04,330 --> 00:53:05,330 That's negative. 683 00:53:07,550 --> 00:53:13,670 So at this point, I'm happy that the The knife tests negative for blood, so I can go. 684 00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:15,290 Go ahead and try it for mobile. 685 00:53:17,310 --> 00:53:20,310 Lack of blood does not mean lack. of evidence. 686 00:53:22,190 --> 00:53:27,470 Visible blood may have washed, but there may still be traces 687 00:53:27,470 --> 00:53:30,310 DNA evidence left on the blade and in the drive. 688 00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:38,220 So if you think about anything physical contact, there is always something 689 00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:39,360 be a DNA transfer. 690 00:53:40,820 --> 00:53:45,540 So in this case, we are obviously Interested in how the knife will look. 691 00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:52,540 handled. And if the individual has He handled it without gloves, so 692 00:53:52,540 --> 00:53:58,340 there would be a transfer of any skin on his hands on the handle of the knife. 693 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,400 The sample is then processed to extract DNA. 694 00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:18,120 This will give detectives a complete profile. can compare with the suspect in 695 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,120 custody. 696 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,080 Hello, Judge Lamport. Are you Judge Drew? of the FSI? 697 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,120 The DNA profile results have been fast -Followed Drew. 698 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:42,840 A full profile is returning on the blade and tip of the knife found in Leo 699 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,840 Ross. 700 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,920 So it's definitely the knife used? 701 00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:52,280 Yes, and the handle is coming back our suspect. 702 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,640 Bright. 703 00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:58,600 And you're saying that it's at least a a billion times more likely to be DNA 704 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,040 contribution of our suspect. 705 00:55:02,220 --> 00:55:04,000 I think we have our weapon there. buddy. 706 00:55:04,540 --> 00:55:07,420 Excellent. That's a brilliant result, isn't it? that? Definitely, definitely. 707 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:15,020 The recovered knife contained Leo's DNA and the suspect's DNA. 708 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,640 It is a huge result for the research. 709 00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:23,720 It's a big relief when you get a Forensic hit like this. 710 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,800 Show that you have identified yourself the right person, but not only that, 711 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,160 that you are now in a strong position to obtain justice for the victim and his 712 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,160 family. 713 00:55:45,009 --> 00:55:48,050 Okay, I need to read you something. It's pretty important, okay? 714 00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:49,890 Come with me. 715 00:55:52,410 --> 00:55:53,790 Just stay there. 716 00:56:01,570 --> 00:56:04,910 The case was referred to the Crown. Prosecutor's Office for accusation 717 00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:09,310 They have returned with several charges I have to read it out loud to you, okay? then 718 00:56:09,310 --> 00:56:13,270 you were charged with the following in on January 21 at Triffid Mill 719 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,080 You murdered Leo Ross, unlike common law. 720 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,640 Do you want to give an answer? 721 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,660 OK. You will be escorted back to your cell. by these officers. 722 00:56:29,380 --> 00:56:35,080 In addition to the murder, the teenager also charged with three felony counts 723 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,740 bodily harm in relation to another Attacks in the park. 724 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:59,860 When something like this happens and It's a child murdering a child, it's 725 00:56:59,860 --> 00:57:01,780 It's hard to make any sense of it. 726 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:09,500 Know the history of the criminal. Before Leo's murder, I 727 00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:14,800 There's a good chance he will. I would have continued to offend if that weren't the case. 728 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,440 caught and arrested. 729 00:57:33,460 --> 00:57:36,540 The aggressor is a 14-year-old boy. himself. 730 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,280 It is clear to me that he was not from good mental state, not only immediately 731 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,740 before Leo's murder, but probably because quite a few years in his life. 732 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,300 Unfortunately, I think we're seeing it. increasingly in society where there is 733 00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:55,380 It doesn't seem to be a reason and it is. Only up to the mental health of the person. 734 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,020 So this is a really tragic case. 735 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,460 The 12-year-old boy lost his life. 736 00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:06,360 that he did nothing wrong and was completely innocent 737 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,540 Leo was just wrong. place at the wrong time. 738 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,880 Each contact leaves a mark that Forensic experts can follow it. 739 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,540 Explore it for yourself with the Open The new interactive case of the university 740 00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:32,540 simulator. 741 00:58:32,970 --> 00:58:38,690 Scan the QR code on the screen or visit connect .open .ac .uk forward slash 742 00:58:38,690 --> 00:58:39,690 RealtySI.